But anyway, in scientology we would say that the Thetan has degenerated from pan-determinism of a game to other-determinism and self-determinism. And yes, the goal is the same: to take full responsibility for everything that you experience and return to pan-determining the game.

There are so many ultimate terms (love, wisdom, power, bliss, ecstasy, awareness ,enlightenment, moksha, satori, ascension, +400 on the tone scale). You mention two: balance and agape love. By the way, agape love and buddhist metta (loving-kindness) are the same thing. From metta, the 3 higher mind states are compassion, sympathetic joy and equanimity, which I think is similar to the balance you mention.

I'm a bit sick of following gurus - you never know when they are going to flip and destroy your bond with them. That being said, ECKANKAR is starting to kick some serious ass.

Finally seeing both sides implies living in duality? What is non-dual realization really like? Connectedness? Unity? Void nothingness?

Why am I thinking so much when spiritual progress starts with stopping thought and/or seeing it as impermanent.

Monads of experience are  the soul playing opposite roles to find balance (the middle road)  for example:teacher..then switching to sudent or vice versa...There are lots of other ones
like playing the neat one..then the sloppy one..victim then victimizer...parent..then child..etc etc..After the soul has experienced the major Monads...he can see things from both sides..and can empathize with people and reach agape love.
 If the person or Guru doesn't get this
he may be judging a lot...and really think his judgement or system is the only correct one..not seeing the broader picture.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terrence Brannon <thequietcenter@gmail.com>
To: Mystemcells <mystemcells@aol.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2010 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: two ways to the same goal ((tags: metaphysics, scientology))

It was me. I dont know what monads of monad of opposites meant.

Hi Terrence...were you asking me about the monads or was that your friend from
Ek?  Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: Terrence Brannon <thequietcenter@gmail.com>
To: Mystemcells <mystemcells@aol.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:47 am
Subject: Re: two ways to the same goal ((tags: metaphysics, scientology))

I dont know what you mean by 'monad' or 'monad of opposites'

The ECKANKAR thing you wanted to attend is today in the morning, but I didnt mention it to you in time. I'm going to Stuart, FL for a 10am Eck thing and maybe a 4pm Eck thing in Broward... I will maybe call you after that.

I think all these opposite paths are doing a Monad of Opposites..and should eventially find the balance ...and you might benefit from getting a Michael Reading of the Leaders of these Groups to know why they have the perceptions they do...and not get caught up in their stuff unless you are going through the same monad.
The balance I think is to get your true spirit guides, archangels etc involved in your long term destiny plan ...also perhaps find some of the people in your entity group....and realize that they are all pieces of the puzzle of your "Godhood"  and in the end like
Barbara Striesand says...Pieces..Pieces who need Pieces..Are the luckiest pieces in the world!!!

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Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 7:38 am
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Romee Anand attested to OT in the Church of Scientology. Being from India, he has a good background in Indian Spirituality as well. Here is what he has to say about Scientology and Sahaj Marg:

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the paths teach the same think and yet go in opposite directions! Sahaj Marg is towards Succumb as it wants you to negate everything and surrender to the Guru and in the end unite with him! Where as Scientology takes the opposite approach...it requires you to take Full Responsibility of Self and EXPAND to INFINITY and Survive as an Independent Spirit 4evr !!! Crazyyyyy !!! Opposite Directions and yet teach about what we say in Scn - 8008 where the 1st 8 stands for infinity of the MEST universe...u crash it to a zero and then the next zero is your own universe which u expand it to Infinity!!
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